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The Avengers #164 front cover
~7.5 AI-Estimated
Approximate
Condition Profile
AVENGERS #164
MARVEL COMICS · 10/77 · NEWSSTAND
UNIT ECA-022180

AVENGERS #164

Avengers #164 – Shooter, Byrne, and Pérez continue the Count Nefaria saga

SIG 3/10 Available

// Unit specification

PublisherCover dateEraVariantKey attributeStatus
Marvel Comics October 1977 Bronze Newsstand AVAILABLE

// Copies in archive

UnitGradeVariantStatus
ECA-022180 ~7.5 Newsstand AVAILABLE

// Run position

Part of an unbroken run · #143–#182 · 40 issues View all 343 available issues of AVENGERS →

// Condition analysis

⚠ AI-Estimated / Approximate Condition Profile

Cover shows overall good gloss with a vertical crease line running through the barcode/UPC box area and slight corner softness at the bottom left. There is minor edge wear along the top and right border, with a small amount of surface scuffing near the spine. The book is in a protective sleeve which creates some glare but no obvious color breaks or major creases are visible on the front; interior and back cover were not assessed.

// Valuation — market reference

⚠ AI-Estimated values — approximate, not an appraisal
BracketGradeEst. market valueMarker
LOW_RAW 0.5 – 1.5 $10
MID_RAW 4.0 – 6.0 $22
HIGH_CERT 9.8 SLAB $325

// Archive commentary

Avengers #164 lands in the middle of the celebrated Count Nefaria three-parter (issues #163-166), a story frequently cited for its early Jim Shooter scripting and the John Byrne/Pablo Marcos art team, inked and later joined on covers by a young George Pérez alongside veteran John Tartaglione. The issue features the classic Avengers roster of the era — Captain America, Iron Man, Beast, Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Wasp, and Hank Pym — pitted against Count Nefaria, who has absorbed the powers of the Ani-Men and the Living Laser in this arc, giving the storyline outsized power-level stakes relative to a typical team-up issue. There is no first appearance or origin tied to this specific issue; its interest is driven by creative pedigree and its place in a well-remembered multi-part battle rather than any landmark character debut.

The FMV curve for Avengers #164 is characteristically flat across the mid-to-high raw and low-certified grades, holding in the low forty-dollar range from grade 7.0 through 9.6 before spiking sharply at 9.8, where census population thins and demand from Byrne/Pérez completists concentrates. This pattern is typical of a well-distributed, non-key Bronze Age Marvel: the book was printed and preserved in enough quantity that grade alone does not move the needle until the top of the census, at which point rarity and crossover appeal from two fan-favorite art careers (Byrne's rise, Pérez's earliest Avengers cover work) take over.

Collecting demand centers on Byrne and Pérez art-run collectors and Avengers team-run completists building out the Nefaria saga rather than key-issue speculators. Raw copies in low and mid grade trade as inexpensive read-and-shelve material with minimal grade premium, while a true Universal 9.8 commands a real premium as a scarce top-census example. This is a steady, modestly-priced supporting book for Bronze Age Avengers runs rather than a growth or investment-grade key.

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